I usually like to come on slow...40mg first hour,20mg start of second hour then dose 30-mg evry45minutes until my hands get like 3" or smaller hands. Always a dim room with monitor light for best open eye visuals. Usually hour three i can half lower my eyelids and start with awake dreams like Ketamine dreams. Usually a color and texture begins each dream, then it morphs to what ever my mind tries to make reality, usually elaborate rooms of my own design but if i put my hands over my eyes everything becomes very visual. One night i was on a higher than normal dose back when i had a dissociative tolerance and i did like 400mg in 4 hours. I got the most amazing sensation of being floated directionally around my awake dreams and with my open eye dreams. it was like my seat did a tilt a whirl around my room and even moved me into closed eye rooms where there was no room in reality to float. I've been on ceilings looking at the floor and tight fuzzy coffin rooms all are very pleasant. Music / earbuds are essential. the comedown is the worst last longer than high about 6 hours. You stumble around and cant speak properly for the first 3-4 hours and then slur really noticeable...I general take 6-8mg of a benzo a try to get comfy sleep of off mostly. But Mxe/Dissociatives, once you figure everything out can be the most trippy visuals, very psychedelic. Also...1 question has anyone had the automatic reversal sensation where your limbs kind do things in reverse. I've found this happens more with KETAMINE BUT MXE as well at times, crazy when you body hoes stuff in reverse to catch you back up to the same timeframe as reality. We need Nitrous tanks. nomad bloodbath